This page is for discussion of which KH entrance to use, what kit is required etc. Some of this has been harvested from the 2008 KH discussion page.
General Logistics
Based on recce's on Expo 08 the general consensus is that we'll be camping at the Stone Bridge and using 161d.
Possible Leads
Siberia
Outstanding QMs in this area:
- C1997-161-21 B
- Sib: Hole below pendule at foot of Vom pitch is given as "undescended" (Wookey reckons it can be seen to choke [I reckon so too, although it's in a very good location for a connection if it went Duncan Collis 02:37, 29 May 2008 (BST)]) [Burblmaze.1]
- C1997-161-22 C
- Sib: hole in floor 40m past 'Not this Junction' [sep.teama.9]
- C1997-161-23 ?
- Sib: passage left in 1st right hand branch in Greengables [sep.greengables.2]
- C1997-161-24 ?
- Sib: passage right in 1st right hand branch in Greengables [sep.greengables.2]
- C1997-161-25 V
- Sib: 6m climb 2nd right hand passage in Greengables [sep.greengables.2]
- C1997-161-28 ?
- Sib: crawl left across 18m pitch below Somebody Else's Problem [sep.part2.14]
- C1997-161-29 ?
- Sib: crawl right across 18m pitch below SEP [sep.part2.14]
- C1997-161-30 ?
- Sib: passage left in left hand branch past Greengables [sep.teama.13]
- C1997-161-31 B
- Sib: passage right hand wall 20m before SEP pitch [sep.teama.14]
- C1997-161-32 C
- Sib: another passage right hand wall 20m before SEP pitch [sep.teama.14]
- C1998-161-01 A
- Fuz: undescended pitch traversed past before slope to Paradox Rift.
- C1998-161-02 X
- Fuz: large dripping aven soaring above Paradox Rift
- C1998-161-03 C
- Fuz: unpushed low wet way from 1st chamber below pitches
- C1998-161-04 V
- Fuz: probably easily scalable 15m aven to obvious passage and echo in Psycho Street.
- C1998-161-05 C
- Fuz: steeply ascending tube over calcited pools in Bearbum Passage.
- C1998-161-06 C
- Fuz: very tight rift towards booming echo beyond crawls in Bearbum Passage.
The Far End
Outstanding QMs in this area
- C1993-161-01 A
- Far: Pitch in Even Further beyond Weasel Pit [FurtCham.5]
- C1993-161-02 A
- Far: Pitch at end of Scrofulosity [Further.25]
- C1993-161-03 A
- Far: Pitch at end of East Anglia [Anglia.29]
- C1993-161-05 C
- Far: Narrow rift pitch (c20m ?, draught) before end of Scrofulosity (needs much hammer) [Further.18]
- C1992-161-11 A
- Far: Silent Fellow Pitch [Pipeless.1]
- C1992-161-12 A
- Far: Satan's Sitting Room pitch [3WiseMen.1 (or 2 or 3?)]
- C1992-161-13 A
- Far: 3 Wise Men pitch before Tinkle Rift [3WiseMen.6]
- C1992-161-14 A
- Far: Wellie Scraper pitch [FarToFar.6]
- C1992-161-19 A
- Far: Far too Far - pitch 40m? very wet [FarToFar.15]
- C1992-161-21 B
- Far: Far too Far - Traverse and pitch in rift to left [FarToFar.15]
- C1991-161-22 C
- Far: Soil pitch in Leadmine [Leadmine.27]
- C1990-161-04 B
- Far: Rifts in Hyper-Gamma Spaces
- C1990-161-05 C
- Far: Endless: Half Shaft (Captive Wedge) inaccessible window [Wedge.8]
- C1990-161-07 B
- Far: Endless: rift off between Hasta La Vesta and Half Shaft (extremely loose) heading back under Yapate
Undescended Pit at the start of Mostly Mud (suggested by Mike TA)
Tackle Requirements
| Pitch | Length | Rope Length | Hardware | Status |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Minoan Surprise | 15m | ? | ? | ? |
| YAPATE traverse | 8m | Left rigged 1994? | ||
| Staircase 36 | 10m | 20m | 3 Hangers | Left rigged 1998 |
| Strange Downfall[1] | 23m | 22m | 3 Hangers | Not left rigged |
| Strange Upfall[1] | 18m | 45m | 4 hangers | Left rigged 1992? |
| Strange Acrossfall[2] | 32m | 4 hangers | Not left rigged | |
| Burble climb[3] | Tape for shortarses | |||
| Vom[3] | 37m | 3 bolts, 2 slings | Not left rigged | |
| Pipeless | 3m |
Info for this table from Mainline to Far North description, Mainline to Siberia description and Fixed Aids in CUCC Caves, plus a little from my own memory. Duncan Collis 07:21, 28 May 2008 (BST)
Note that [1],[2] and [3] are alternatives - only one of them needs to be rigged, although [3] will need to be rigged temporarily in order to rig [1] or [2]
It would be a very good idea to install stainless steel anchors and maillons on the up-pitches at Staircase 36 and strange Upfall. Frank has offered to donate suitable hanger/anchor assemblies for this purpose. These should be installed very carefully by somebody who isn't a muppet - they're expensive anchors and should last for well beyond our lifetimes, so don't invite Mr. Cockup on the trip.