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==Proposal for New Year Meet 2010/2011==
  
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* '''19th-20th January: Peaks 1'''
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Our annual New Year's trip to Yorkshire. We will be staying at BULL POT FARM and it isn't mandatory to come for the full week. It's an excellent way to do some out of term caving!
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Hut: TSG <br>
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The plan below is just a list of the permits we got so far but there are plenty of non permit caves in Yorkshire and endless possibilities of caving :)
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Caves Saturday: JH/Titan/White River <br>
 
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Caves Sunday: Peak Cavern, P8 and Oxlow <br>
 
  
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* '''2nd-3rd February: Yorkshire 2'''
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{{CUCC meet|
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Hut: Brackenbottom <br>
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|name=New Years' Meet
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Caves Saturday: Lost Johns/Boxhead <br>
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|leader= TBC
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Caves Sunday: Little Hull, some entrance of Alum <br>
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|dates= 26th December - 3rd Jan
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|hut=[http://www.rrcpc.org.uk/farm.htm Bull Pot Farm]
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|caves= }}
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{|border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" align="center"
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|'''Day'''
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|'''Easegill (received)'''
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|'''Gaping Gill & Allotment (pending)'''
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|'''Leck Fell (received)'''
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|'''Fountains Fell & Penyghent (received)'''
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|-
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|Sun 26 Dec
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|Pool Sink
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|Bar Pot/Flood Entrance
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| --
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| --
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|-
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|Mon 27 Dec
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|Top Sink
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|Car Pot
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| --
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| --
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|-
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|Tue 28 Dec
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|Lancaster Hole
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|Newby Moss
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| --
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| --
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|-
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|Wed 29 Dec
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|County Pot
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|Grange Rigg Pot
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|Notts 1
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| --
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|-
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|Thu 30 Dec
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|Cow Pot
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|Juniper Gulf, Jean Pot
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|Notts 2
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|Washfold
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|-
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|Fri 31 Dec
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|Sylvester Pot
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|Long Kin West
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|Lost Johns/Boxhead
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| --
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|-
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|Sat 01 Jan
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|Wretched Rabbit
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|Marble Sink
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|Rumbling Hole
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| --
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|-
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|Sun 02 Jan
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|Lancaster Hole
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|Rift Pot/Long Kin East
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|Short Drop/Gavel
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| --
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|}
  
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* '''16th-17th February: South Wales 2'''
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PIPPIKIN POT, LINK POT, BYE GEORGE POT can all be arranged on the day, by stopping at Leck Fell House (http://cncc.org.uk/caving_access_three_counties_system.html)
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Hut: Whitewalls <br>
 
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Caves Saturday: Aggie and Daren  <br>
 
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Caves Sunday: Ogof Craig y Fynnon <br>
 
  
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* '''1st-2nd March: Yorkshire 3'''
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==Proposal for Lent Term 2010==
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Hut: Greenclose  <br>
 
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Caves Saturday: Gaping Ghyll (Stream Passage/Flood Entrance)  <br>
 
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Caves Sunday: Hurnell Moss <br>
 
  
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FOUNTAINS FELL Permits
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Lent term begins tue 12/01 and finishes fri 12/03
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(Closed season; 1st November until 2nd week-end of May)
 
  
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Becka, apparently your Hammer Pot request is getting very popular. Have you decided for the dates you want?
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*1st meet: fri15/sun17 JAN -- SOUTH WALES
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I'm also getting GINGLING for Sarah, so in case anyone else is interested please let me know the dates. (Serena)
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** hut: Whitewalls (booked, ah ah ah!)
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** caves: Aggy & Craig (dates ok, sending SAE ASAP), DYOgof (investigating this),
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Ogof Capel can be arranged as well.
  
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*2nd meet: fri29/sun31 JAN -- PEAKS DISTRICT
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** hut: TSG (booked)
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** caves: Titan/JH (applied for key), other caves which can be arranged on the day
  
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*3rd meet: fri12/sun14 FEB -- YORKSHIRE 
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** hut: Brackenbottom (booked)
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** caves: Jean Pot, Hull Pot and Little Hull Pot. Birks Fell (no access until april!)
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*4th meet: fri26/sun28 FEB -- MENDIP
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** hut: Wessex (booked)
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** caves: Charterhouse (applied to the wessex), St Cuthbert's (applied to the belfry), Longwood/August (will do), Swildon's short round, GB
  
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===<strike>26th-27th January</strike> 19th-20th January:===
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== Out of term / Easter term ==
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''' Derbyshire, TSG hut; possible caves include Titan if we can find leaders, Peak Cavern for a good Sunday trip, P8 and Oxlow for SRT practice.'''
 
  
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'''Serena:''' I'd add nettle pot as a saturday/sunday trip, near oxlow. it has some lovely formations. (permit for both at a farm on the day).
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*North Wales (after march the weather will allow to visit more caves)
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Re. the Titan trip an exhange as last year with JH would be nice and maybe we could also get white series or however it's called. (to piss off the people at the showcave :) )
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** accommodation: no hut, it will have to be camping or community college sleeping, which is very expensive (http://www.pentredwr.co.uk/accomm.htm).
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** caves: look http://ukcaving.com/wiki/index.php/North_East_Wales or http://www.northwalescavingclub.org.uk/access/access.htm, and let me know what you fancy.
  
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'''Wookey:''' Do you mean Peak Cavern, White River Series? Very nice indeed I gather. I'm in favour of JH/Titan/Peak white river as I've never been to any of them.
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*Neanthead mine (http://www.npht.com/nentheadmines/)
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** Camping
  
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'''Toby:''' I'd love to White River again, if nobody gets strung-up!  Particularly if I can take a camera...
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==Proposal for Mich Term 2009==
  
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===<strike>9th-10th February:</strike> 2nd-3rd February:===
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The squash is on Monday 12th October.
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'''Yorkshire, Brackenbottom (or YSS); possible caves include Sell Gill and others (insert appropriate cave name here!)'''
 
  
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'''Serena:''' History goes that Sell gill is boring (no direct experience here) and by that time we want to engage novice with more demanding trips. I've heard that Illusion is pretty and we could redo some of the caves that I booked for NY. Leck fell is better in this case because then it's closed in March-June: Lost John's and Notts 1 are supposed to be the best ones that need permit and the kingsdale area doesn't require advance booking like rowten, etc...) (am I talking bulls**t?).
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After pub discussion, we came to this plan (more or less?):
  
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'''Wookey''': Not sure about Leck dates, but yes do notts/lost johns when permits are available. multiple routes in LJ can absorb a lot of people. Sell gill is good 1st SRT cave and not too badly affected by rain, but if people are past that point then there are plenty of more exciting options.  
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-> One extra one day meet to Peaks would be the ideal solution to the high number of novices we experienced in the last couple of years.
  
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'''Toby:''' I think the Leck Fell close season is April/May/June; Lost Johns' is a good cave for lots of SRT!
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*First meet (17/18 October 2009) - Mendip Hills - one day meet
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** MNRC Hut: Booking Confirmed for Sat 17 October
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** Swildon's Hole on Sun 18 October: no permit required
  
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===<strike>23rd-24th February:</strike> 16th-17th February:===
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*Second meet (24/25 October 2009) - Peak District - one day meet
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'''South Wales, Whitewalls; Aggie and Daren for a miserable Saturday and Craig a Fynnon on Sunday.'''
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** Orpheus Hut Booking Confirmed for Sat 24 October
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** Peak Cavern Booking Confirmed for Sun 25 October
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** P8, Giant's hole on Sun 25 October: no permit required
  
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'''Lucy:''' One small thing - whitewalls may not like us much after last yr (key loss). should be ok but just in case can anyone think of alternatives?
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*Third meet (30 Oct/01 Nov 2009) - Yorkshire Dales - weekend meet
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** Greenclose Hut Booking Confirmed for Sat 17 October
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** Bar Pot/Rathole for Sat 31 October: permit received
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** Pool Sink/Wr Rabbit for Sat 31 October: permit received
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** Short Drop/Gavel Pot for Sun 1 November: permit received
  
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'''Serena:''' Dar-Yr-Ogof??? I guess we can get leaders through WSG or Lucy's dad.
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*Bonfire night at the Farm (6/8 November 2009)
  
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'''Wookey:''' Dan-yr-ogof is a very long drive from whitewalls (other end of Brecon Beacons). Best to do nearby caves, or if you fancy a drive then Draenen is closer. On the other hand DYO is arguably the finest cave in wales so worth a drive if that's when leaders are available - just need to plan for it.
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*Fouth meet (13/15 November 2009) - South Wales - weekend meet
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** WSG Hut Booking Confirmed for Fri/Sat 13/15 November
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** OFD I & II, Little Neath: investigating for an OFD I leader
  
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'''Toby:''' If we can't do Whitewalls (and I don't see that they'd not want us back - it wasn't really our fault), then is SWCC a good alternative?  Then we could sensibly do DYO (and OFD - but keep away from the Trident, please!)
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*Fifth meet (27/29 November 2009) - weekend meet
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** Bull Pot Farm booking confirmed for Fri/Sat 27/28 November
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'''Edvin:''' I don't think there will be any problem getting access to either Whitewalls or the Aggie key: Nial has organised two trips there since the one when the key was nicked.
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** Lost Johns for Sat 28 November: permit received
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** Lancaster Hole and County Pot for Sat 28 November: permit received
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'''Kathryn:''' I would very much like to go to Whitewalls and do miserable Daren and Aggie trips - we've already been to the OFD type area once this year (though Dan yr Ogof would be nice).
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** Notts 2 for Sun 29 November: permit received
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'''Yorkshire, Greenclose Hut; any Gaping Ghyll cave and many others.'''
 
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'''Serena:''' plenty of stuff in the GG/allotment area...ah, for those of you that border into masochism, Becka has asked me to organise an Hammer Pot permit for herself and julian and I guess that they'll be willing to get more company :).
 
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'''Wookey:''' I'll volunteer. Previous times the rest of my team wimped out at various bits on the way in.
 
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'''Toby:''' Hammer (and Fountains Fell in general) needs to be booked before the start of January - they do permits a full calendar year at a time.
 
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'''Becka (via email, posted by Kathryn):''' It would probably be an idea to apply for a couple of dates for Hammer (I assume we don't pay?) because it's flood prone so if we had a wet weekend (likely in March) it'd be off anyway ... so since Patrick probably couldn't make the earlier one, maybe you could try for your original date plus a one in the summer (if you don't mind ...). Thanks!
 
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'''Toby:''' I'm up for Hammer again, as long as I get a big lardy breakfast.  One needs more than just sausage butties!
 
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'''Edvin:''' Toby, you cheeky scamp!  I'd be keen to do Alum Pot (or Diccan) on one of the Yorkshire trips: don't think we need permits for those.
 
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'''Kathryn:''' One is more than welcome to cook ones own lardy breakfast if one so wishes!
 
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'''Toby:''' Yes, one could cook one's own breakfast - one may even do so when a 4pm start is acceptable...  ;-)  Alum/Diccan can be a fun dangle; however, I found Diccan down-and-back reasonably chilly even with a party of two - definitely plan for the cold if more are doing it.  For example, exchange with Alum, or separate riggers and de-riggers.  No permit required for these, or any of the Long Churn caves - they are your domain for 50p per caver per day at Selside Farm.
 
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===General comments===
 
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'''Lucy:''' On the 25th Nov I will book the dates, huts and caves suggested, with alterations proposed. If anyone doesn't like this list, say so before next saturday.
 
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'''Toby:''' At the moment, I'm planning to be away with CUHWC on all [http://canisp/tms/cuhc/diary.html their trips]. I'll probably also head up to Scotland on 19/20 January, 16/17 February and 22/23 March (Easter weekend) - CUCC members invited!  This leaves 2/3 Feb, 23/24 Feb, 1/2 March and 15/16 March as my best weekends.  I'm trying to organise to do stuff with [http://www.swaledaleoutdoorclub.org.uk/programme/programme.php SOC] outside of term, but could do a Yorkshire trip with one day with each club, or take 2-3 CUCC members as guests.  (P.S. obviously I don't expect the whole club calendar to revolve around me!  But I do want to be a useful driver...)
 
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'''Kathryn:''' Umm yeah, just noticed we've managed to clash perfectly with almost all of the hillwalking trips.  These are only suggested dates - nothing has been booked yet. [[User:Kathryn|Kathryn]] 11:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 
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'''Toby:''' At present, I think I'd choose CUCC over CUHWC for 26/27 January and 9/10 February, and vice versa for 8/9 March, meaning I'd miss the Yorkshire trips.  Could make both of those if they were each moved a week earlier.  In fact if everything were one week earlier, I could go on them all, and do Scotland on 23/24 February and 22/23 March...
 
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'''Kathryn:'''  Can anyone think of a reason why we couldn't move everything one week earlier?  It would mean that the 1st meet would be the weekend after most undergrads arrive back in Cambridge, but thats not necessarily a bad thing, as long as we are organised, as people will probably have less work piled up at that stage.[[User:Kathryn|Kathryn]] 21:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 
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'''Toby:''' The revised dates certainly suit me!  Good points about the start of term; I think the two effects balance nicely, though.
 

Latest revision as of 12:47, 1 December 2010

Proposal for New Year Meet 2010/2011

Our annual New Year's trip to Yorkshire. We will be staying at BULL POT FARM and it isn't mandatory to come for the full week. It's an excellent way to do some out of term caving! The plan below is just a list of the permits we got so far but there are plenty of non permit caves in Yorkshire and endless possibilities of caving :)

New Years' Meet
Meet leader TBC
Dates 26th December - 3rd Jan
Hut Bull Pot Farm
Caves
Day Easegill (received) Gaping Gill & Allotment (pending) Leck Fell (received) Fountains Fell & Penyghent (received)
Sun 26 Dec Pool Sink Bar Pot/Flood Entrance -- --
Mon 27 Dec Top Sink Car Pot -- --
Tue 28 Dec Lancaster Hole Newby Moss -- --
Wed 29 Dec County Pot Grange Rigg Pot Notts 1 --
Thu 30 Dec Cow Pot Juniper Gulf, Jean Pot Notts 2 Washfold
Fri 31 Dec Sylvester Pot Long Kin West Lost Johns/Boxhead --
Sat 01 Jan Wretched Rabbit Marble Sink Rumbling Hole --
Sun 02 Jan Lancaster Hole Rift Pot/Long Kin East Short Drop/Gavel --

PIPPIKIN POT, LINK POT, BYE GEORGE POT can all be arranged on the day, by stopping at Leck Fell House (http://cncc.org.uk/caving_access_three_counties_system.html)

Proposal for Lent Term 2010

Lent term begins tue 12/01 and finishes fri 12/03

  • 1st meet: fri15/sun17 JAN -- SOUTH WALES
    • hut: Whitewalls (booked, ah ah ah!)
    • caves: Aggy & Craig (dates ok, sending SAE ASAP), DYOgof (investigating this),

Ogof Capel can be arranged as well.

  • 2nd meet: fri29/sun31 JAN -- PEAKS DISTRICT
    • hut: TSG (booked)
    • caves: Titan/JH (applied for key), other caves which can be arranged on the day
  • 3rd meet: fri12/sun14 FEB -- YORKSHIRE
    • hut: Brackenbottom (booked)
    • caves: Jean Pot, Hull Pot and Little Hull Pot. Birks Fell (no access until april!)
  • 4th meet: fri26/sun28 FEB -- MENDIP
    • hut: Wessex (booked)
    • caves: Charterhouse (applied to the wessex), St Cuthbert's (applied to the belfry), Longwood/August (will do), Swildon's short round, GB

Out of term / Easter term

Proposal for Mich Term 2009

The squash is on Monday 12th October.

After pub discussion, we came to this plan (more or less?):

-> One extra one day meet to Peaks would be the ideal solution to the high number of novices we experienced in the last couple of years.

  • First meet (17/18 October 2009) - Mendip Hills - one day meet
    • MNRC Hut: Booking Confirmed for Sat 17 October
    • Swildon's Hole on Sun 18 October: no permit required
  • Second meet (24/25 October 2009) - Peak District - one day meet
    • Orpheus Hut Booking Confirmed for Sat 24 October
    • Peak Cavern Booking Confirmed for Sun 25 October
    • P8, Giant's hole on Sun 25 October: no permit required
  • Third meet (30 Oct/01 Nov 2009) - Yorkshire Dales - weekend meet
    • Greenclose Hut Booking Confirmed for Sat 17 October
    • Bar Pot/Rathole for Sat 31 October: permit received
    • Pool Sink/Wr Rabbit for Sat 31 October: permit received
    • Short Drop/Gavel Pot for Sun 1 November: permit received
  • Bonfire night at the Farm (6/8 November 2009)
  • Fouth meet (13/15 November 2009) - South Wales - weekend meet
    • WSG Hut Booking Confirmed for Fri/Sat 13/15 November
    • OFD I & II, Little Neath: investigating for an OFD I leader
  • Fifth meet (27/29 November 2009) - weekend meet
    • Bull Pot Farm booking confirmed for Fri/Sat 27/28 November
    • Lost Johns for Sat 28 November: permit received
    • Lancaster Hole and County Pot for Sat 28 November: permit received
    • Notts 2 for Sun 29 November: permit received
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